HWUMC

I'm getting the 3.15 train from betws-y-coed to london, so will boulder/climb/walk/shop in the morning depending on what others and the weather are doing.

andy - if we are playing meet the family again, is there any chance your mum and sister will feed us as well as giving us a cup of tea?

having had a chat last night, it would seem she's in Rhyl all Tuesday working - Meetin my family look off the cards

I know a fair few other families thereabouts though....

Just checked the sign-up sheet and I'm excited to see lots of people I know! Woohoo! Looking forward to seeing you all again

Alex - don't necessarily assume no snow! There was a fair bit in the mountains yesterday - no idea what conditions underfoot like or whether it will melt this week (weather forecast good). But, believe it or not, we do get snow 'so far south'!

i found at least 10 cubic metres of the stuff on snowdon a few years past, in late april!

Can I get dropped off at Warrington, please? Thanks for the info Andy, I just said Chester as it was somewhere I knew I could get a train from. What time would we probably be going past there, so I can arrange transport at the other end? I don't have tickets booked at the moment,
Part of the reason I haven't requested snow gear is because I won't be there at the Edinburgh end to put it back, but if no-one's claimed the 80cm ice-axe and yellow crampons when I get there and people don't mind putting them back in the gear shed I'll take them.

The info i got sent suggested bringing some fire lighters and kindling for the wood burning stove that heats the hut (they apparently provide some wood).

ooh wood burning stoves, I like

So what vehicles are we taking?
Will there be just the one leaving at 6:15 or will there be an early one as well, or a bus and a mail van?
Both Helga and I need to know if we have to start and finish work early as we would really like to try and get to the hut while it is still Friday. Plus I need to know what to sign to drive.

the theory atm is the 2 12 seaters, which we'll need to pick up the keys for by 4pm tomorrow. I can grab the keys for one today, but ideally i'll need a second signature for the other driver. However if we get 4 signatures on the 2 sets of paperwork then we're fine for switching drivers as we like.

Personally I think it's best to still take both 12 seaters, even if we aren't going to fill them, as it gives us more flexibility when we're down there, i.e. it's much easier to sort out a long walk with pickups at both end; we can also have half the group head in separate directions.

Anyone not agree with that??

Sounds good. Means we' re not having to worry so much about space for lots of bags as well.

Makes sense that all the drivers sign for both busses.

speaking to Lynne and shes happy so long as anyone who drives this weekend has signed at least one of the forms, but i get what you're saying!

12 now on the list, so:

Bus 1: I'll grab that one and get my arse to the gear shed by 1630hrs (4:30pm), looking to leave once we have 7-8 people turned up, leaving at the latest 1730hrs (5:30pm) so that we can get to Wales on Friday, as Jon put it.

Bus 2: Picked up similarly, leaving 1900hrs (7pm) latest to get to Wales at a reasonable time


More specific details in a forthcoming email!

JP wrote:avoid needless faffing

amen to that!