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Why sometimes the fine for trespassing is 200 pounds and sometimes 1000?

You get £800 off if you can jump 2m, taking off and landing on snow

Erm, I'm a bit late to post regarding this trip I know, but for future reference:

I went up Ben Lui in February this year, had a not stupidly early start, a muddy walk up to the base of the hill followed by a steep but not boring or long ascent to the top, with a bit of a ridge section to finish which was not exposed or difficult, down across a snow bowl and up another Munro, and back to the car through a different muddy forest and along a bit of railway line before dark.

Our Scotland maps are in the shed and I'm afraid I can't be bothered to go and check which route it was I took, but I'm guessing it was probably a variation of the short/boring one referred to above!

It was not too short nor too long, and not boring! It was great, and I don't often say that about munros

We waded across the river nearest the car park with only those who did not have a good boot/gaiter set up getting their feet wet (and those who took their shoes off, like me). It was not at all treacherous, even though there was a lot of water in the river. It was quite good fun.

Hope this helps for next time! I could check the route on the map at some point if anyone wanted to know.

Well we've got a Lawers trip planned for next term, could always bring a small raft along if we do a straigh switch!

Hello,

Thanks for that Sarah. It didn't look boring to me either (just shorter and more straight forward than from the other side).

http://www.mountaintrack.co.uk/img_temp ... arpark.jpg (taken from the 'hidden' [as in not sign posted] carpark - Lui Left for those unsure.

>>could always bring a small raft along<<

Sounds like a cunning plan, Andy.

I'd be very interested in having a go at Lui and/or Beinn A Chleibh from Glen Lochy (def. will sometime). That col in the upper pic looked very inviting. Although the upstream bridge is currently in a collapsed state (I mentioned it to a chap in the Tyndrum Visitor Centre - who said he'd pass my 'complaint' on - so it may get fixed in the future) and carries a £200 warning sign, there were potential stepping stones a few 10s of yards to the right of it. This bridge is difficult to spot from the road:

http://www.mountaintrack.co.uk/img_temp ... bridge.jpg

and it took me a while to locate it exactly after a few false seaches behing mounds on the way (can't easily walk along the river to get to it). I did, however, take a landscape bearing on where to leave the road and find the indistinct track to the bridge. If anyone would like this for future ref, please contact me privately.

Regards,
Trev

Not sure which river there are issues getting across, as I haven't checked the maps, but the one you reach first coming from the car park can easily be waded across (is shin/knee deep but not dangerous) and then there's a smaller river running through the forest on the route we did that can be crossed on stepping stones/by jumping without getting wet feet. The main issue was the mud, there's a lot of mud.

Hello,

The river of concern is the River Lochy (some say that is the crux to even starting the trip as it should not be forded if in spate, which you won't know until you get there). The second is the smaller Eas Daimh. If you go for the N (ish) ridge of Lui, you need to get across both - if you go for the col, you go between the rivers after crossing the Lochy.

Sarah is this:

http://www.mountaintrack.co.uk/img_temp ... d_here.JPG

where you forded? This is the fording point shown on the OS and is the confluence of the Eas Daimh with the River Lochy.

Mud, glorious mud ... hope it's frozen mud .

Regards,
Trev

That could be it! But it was a bit wider. I will find out.